Bloomberg View columnist Barry Ritholtz interviews Kathleen Fisher, head of wealth and investment strategies for AllianceBernstein L.P. In this role, she leads the team responsible for developing and communicating asset allocation advice and investment strategies for high-net-worth clients. Since 2013, she has also overseen research on investment planning and wealth transfer issues facing high-net-worth families as well as endowments and foundations. Kathy joined the firm in 2001 as a senior portfolio manager and member of AllianceBernstein's private client investment policy group; she was appointed a national managing director in 2009. She previously spent 15 years at JPMorgan, most recently as a managing director advising banks on acquisitions, divestitures and financing techniques.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bloomberg View columnist Barry Ritholtz interviews writer and media strategist Ryan Holiday. Holiday was 19 years old when he dropped out of college to apprentice under Robert Greene, author of “The 48 Laws of Power.” He went on to become the director of marketing for American Apparel. His creative agency, Brass Check, has advised clients like Google, TASER and Complex, as well as many prominent bestselling authors, including Neil Strauss, Tony Robbins and Tim Ferriss. He is the author of six books, including “The Daily Stoic” and most recently “Conspiracy: Peter Thiel, Hulk Hogan, Gawker and the Anatomy of Intrigue.”  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.