Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz interviews acclaimed journalist Michael Lewis, whose best-selling books include "Flash Boys: A Wall Street Revolt," "The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine," and "Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game." After graduating from Princeton and the London School of Economics, Lewis worked on the bond desk at Salomon Brothers, an experience he recounted in his first book, "Liar's Poker." He went on to pen more than a dozen books and currently contributes to Bloomberg Opinion; his first podcast series, "Against the Rules," launched in April.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz interviews Roger Ibbotson, a professor emeritus of finance at Yale University who serves as chairman and chief investment officer at Zebra Capital Management LLC. He was also the founder and chairman of Ibbotson Associates (now a Morningstar company) and executive director of the Center for Research in Security Prices, which helped transform finance into a field of empirical study. His latest book, “Popularity: A Bridge Between Classical and Behavioral Finance,” co-authored with Thomas M. Idzorek, Paul D. Kaplan and James X. Xiong, was published in January. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.