Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Claudia Sahm, director of macroeconomic policy at the Washington Center for Equitable Growth. She has policy and research expertise on consumer spending, fiscal stimulus, and the financial well-being of households, and is known for developing the “Sahm Rule.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Simon Hallett, who is co-chief investment officer at Harding Loevner, a firm that manages more than $72 billion in assets. Previously, Hallett was the director/investment manager at Jardine Fleming Investment Management in Hong Kong. He is also the chairman and majority owner of Plymouth Argyle Football Club in the U.K. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.