Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Shirl Penney, who is the founder of Dynasty Financial Partners, a leading integrated platform services company for independent wealth-management advisory firms. Penney currently serves as Dynasty's president and CEO and is a member of its board of directors. The firm has over $60 billion in assets on its platform. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with legendary venture-capital investor Bill Gurley, who has spent more than 15 years as a general partner at Benchmark Capital. Prior his work in venture capital, Gurley spent four years on Wall Street as a top-ranked research analyst, including three years at Credit Suisse First Boston focusing on personal computer hardware and software. He was the lead analyst on the Amazon IPO. He is also the author of the long-running Above the Crowd blog, which focuses on the evolution and economics of technology businesses. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.