Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with New York Times business reporter Maureen Farrell, who co-authored the 2021 book "The Cult of We: WeWork, Adam Neumann, and the Great Startup Delusion" along with Eliot Brown. Before joining the New York Times, Farrell spent nearly 10 years at the Wall Street Journal. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Steven Fradkin, president of Northern Trust's wealth management business unit, which has $355 billion in assets under management. Fradkin was previously chief financial officer and head of international business at Northern Trust, among other roles. He has been a member of the corporation’s management committee since 2004. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.