Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with David R. Kotok, who is co-founder, chairman and chief investment officer of Cumberland Advisors, which has $4 billion in assets under management. Kotok is also a director at the nonprofit Global Interdependence Center, which promotes free trade and international dialogue, and has authored or co-authored four books, including "From Bear to Bull with ETFs" and "Adventures in Muniland: A Guide to Municipal Bond Investing in the Post-Crisis Era." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Barry Ritholtz speaks with Samantha McLemore of Miller Value Partners, which has some $3.1 billion in assets under management. McLemore has worked alongside Miller Value Partners founder Bill Miller on opportunity equity for some two decades, and is expected to take over the Miller Opportunity Trust following his retirement. McLemore is also the founder, majority owner and chief investment officer of Patient Capital Management, an investment adviser that serves institutional clients in cooperation with Miller Value Partners, which has some $281 million in assets under management. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.