Barry speaks with Mike Freno, Barings LLC Chairman and CEO. In his nearly 20 years with the firm, Mike has held various positions including Managing Director, Head of Global High Yield, and Head of Global Markets. He also spent 5 years as the company's President, overseeing a majority of Barings’ business sectors including investments, sales, operations and tech. Additionally, Mike served as Chairman of the Board of Barings BDC. Alongside his Chairman and CEO duties, he is a current member of the MassMutual Executive Leadership team. On this episode, Barry and Mike discuss the evolution of the asset management industry, his well-rounded business experience, and what it takes to lead with "confident humility." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Barry speaks with Jonathan Clements, Founder and Editor of the HumbleDollar and veteran personal finance columnist for the Wall Street Journal. He wrote over a thousand columns for the Journal and for the Wall Street Journal Sunday before spending six years as Citigroup's Director of Financial Education. He also held positions at Euromoney and Forbes. Jonathan is the author of 9 personal finance books including "My Money Journey" and "From Here to Financial Happiness." He received a Stage 4 Lung Cancer diagnosis last year, an experience he's used to expound on the relationship between money, well-being, and life satisfaction. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.