What happens when a fund is trading below its NAV (net asset value)? How can investors force management to allow the fund to trade back to fair value? Boaz Weinstein, founder and manager of Saba Capital Management, speaks with Barry Ritholtz about activist investing in closed end funds. His firm runs over $7 billion in client assets, and he manages the SABA Closed End Funds ETF (CEFS).   Each week, “At the Money” discusses an important topic in money management. From portfolio construction to taxes and cutting down on fees, join Barry Ritholtz to learn the best ways to put your money to work. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Barry speaks with Jim O'Shaughnessy, Founder and CEO of O'Shaughnessy Ventures LLC. Prior to founding O'Shaughnessy Ventures, Jim was the Founder and Chair of OSAM (O'Shaughnessy Asset Management) which was acquired by Franklin Templeton in 2021. He also served as Senior Managing Director and Executive Director of Systematic Equity for Bear Stearns. His book "What Works on Wall Street" was a New York Times bestseller. On this episode, Barry and Jim discuss his path through the world of business, the power of well-chosen words, and his new book "Two Thoughts: A Timeless Collection of Infinite Wisdom." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.