Barry speaks with Lisa Shalett, Chief Investment Officer at Morgan Stanley. Previously, she was CEO and chairman at Sanford Bernstein, CIO at Merrill Lynch Asset Management, and now CIO at both Morgan Stanley Wealth Management and runs their asset allocation models and their outsourced chief investment officer models. On this episode, Barry and Lisa discuss the philosophy of managing billions of dollars in assets and wealth management today.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Barry speaks with author and financial journalist Michael Lewis. Michael has written countless New York Times bestsellers including Flash Boys and Going Infinite. His book The Big Short was turned into an Oscar-winning film, alongside his Oscar-nominated books-turned film The Blind Side and Moneyball. On this episode, Barry and Michael breakdown the ins and outs of government and his latest book Who is Government: The Untold Story of Public Service. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.