Seth takes a closer look at Democrats gathering for the first day of their convention while Republicans take to TV to beg Donald Trump to stop being insane.

Then, Ramin Setoodeh talks about interviewing Donald Trump for his book Apprentice in Wonderland: How Donald Trump and Mark Burnett Took America Through the Looking Glass and why it's important to understand who he is and where he came from in order to beat him. 

Plus, Ramin continues the conversation backstage at Studio 8G exclusively for this podcast.

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