Seth takes a closer look at the Trump administration rescinding a directive that would have placed a freeze on all federal grants and loans after the move caused chaos and sparked an intense nationwide backlash.

Then, Governor Gretchen Whitmer talks about how Trump's tariffs could impact the economy, the future of electric vehicles in the United States and what she wants readers to take away from her book True Gretch - Young Adult Edition.

Finally, exclusively for this podcast, Governor Whitmer continues the conversation backstage with Late Night Supervising Producer Henry Melcher.

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