Sonya Sawtell-Rickson is the Chief Investment Officer of Australian Superannuation Fund HESTA, a AUD 75 billion ($50 billion) pool dedicated to health and community service workers. HESTA services 90,000 employers and a million members, 80% of whom are women. Sonya is one of Australia’s biggest stars in employing a total portfolio approach to the management of assets. We discussed this approach in past conversations with Raff Arndt from Australia Future Fund and Matt Whineray, then CEO of New Zealand Super. TPA generally uses more granular risk management and fine-tuning of incremental portfolio decisions than an asset allocation approach. Our conversation highlights the beliefs, benchmarks, culture, and implementation that drive HESTA’s total portfolio approach. We also dive into HESTA’s objectives related to climate solutions and diversity that go alongside its real return goals. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at @tseides or LinkedIn Subscribe to the mailing list Access Transcript with Premium Membership

Alan Forman is the former Director of Real Estate at the Yale Investments Office, where he spent 31.5 years before retiring last year. For three decades, Alan was one of the core four at Yale alongside David Swensen, Dean Takahashi, and Tim Sullivan. In his next chapter, he hung a shingle named Blue Orchard Capital, where he works with real estate managers to help them understand best practices in the industry. In our conversation, Alan shares rare insight into Yale’s investment operation and, in particular, highlights the consistent and essential importance of people and alignment in Yale’s strategy. We walk through how he applied the process to the real estate asset class and how he’s looking to help the next generation of great real estate managers in his post-Yale endeavors. For full show notes, visit the episode webpage here. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at @tseides or LinkedIn Subscribe to the mailing list Access Transcript with Premium Membership