In a past episode, I joined Steve Patterson and the host for what was supposed to be a discussion but quickly turned into one of the most heated debates I've had on the show. Along with Steve, who co-authored Hijacking Bitcoin with Roger Ver, we dove into a fiery debate about Michael Saylor—his influence, his ideas, and whether Bitcoin has been hijacked. While we all agreed it wouldn’t be a debate, the conversation sparked intense back-and-forths about Bitcoin’s direction and the potential dangers it faces. It’s a passionate exchange that touches on crucial issues within the Bitcoin space, and it's a conversation that’s well worth sharing. Link to original episode: Michael Saylor: Genius or Madman? Has Bitcoin been hijacked? FIERY DEBATE Guy Swann|Steve Patterson (Link: https://tinyurl.com/yrm4fy7w)   Host Links ⁠Guy on Nostr ⁠(Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xc96ney) ⁠Guy on X ⁠(Link: https://twitter.com/theguyswann) Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann) Guy on TikTok (Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@theguyswann) Guy on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann) ⁠Bitcoin Audible on X⁠ (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible) The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839) Check out our awesome sponsors! Fold: The best way to buy, use, and earn #Bitcoin on everything you do! Sats back on your debit card, gift cards, auto-buys, round-ups, you name it. Fold is the true bitcoiner's banking. Get 20K sats for FREE using referral code bitcoinaudible.com/fold Ready for best-in-class self custody? Get the Jade here and use discount code 'GUY' to get 10% off (Link: bitcoinaudible.com/jade) Trying to BUY BITCOIN? River, secure, trusted, bitcoin only, lightning enabled, simple. (Link: https://bitcoinaudible.com/river) Bitcoin Games! Get 10% off the best Bitcoin board game in the world, HODLUP! Or any of the other great games from the Free Market Kids! Use code GUY10 at checkout for 10% off your cart! (Link: https://www.freemarketkids.com/collections/games-1) Bitcoin Custodial Multisig Want to get into Bitcoin but not ready for self custody? Use custodial multisig for the best way to distribute trust across multiple institutions and even jurisdictions! Check out OnRamp. (Link: BitcoinAudible.com/onramp) Education & HomeSchooling Get the lesson in real economics that you never got in school, and teach your kids the truth, not the statist insanity that is Keynesianism. Liberty Classroom is the invaluable resource you are looking for! (Link: BitcoinAudible.com/Liberty)

"We've planted our orange flag in the ground. We've made it known this is a space where we will try to propagate and spread the mission, values and ethos of Bitcoin. And we hope that not only spreads to other cities around the country or the world, but we really view this as a greater movement of how we can really take back our cities. We do need to organize and align ourselves. You know, online, but when it actually comes time to take action, the in real life aspect can't be understated. And, you know, you need to lock arms as a collective and move forward. Supporting cause that is bigger than oneself. And to the younger generation, I think that's something they really crave. I think the space is really going to give them an outlet to contribute their skills to something that will live beyond them." - Wyatt O'Rourke While we always talk about the new network, how we can build Nostr, use Keet, implement new OP_CODES, and solve all of our problems with some new software or protocol, something really important can get left out of the conversation. Everything in the Bitcoin Revolution really begins and ends in real life. What does it take to bring bit coiners together in the real world, make a real life space sustainable, and build a true community in a world severely lacking it. Today we chat with a good friend and valuable builder in Bitcoin, Wyatt O'Rourke.   Guest Links The Space (Link: https://denver.space/) Wyatt on X (Link: https://x.com/WROrourke) Personal Website & Blog (Link: https://wyattorourke.com/) Basilic Financial Website (Link: https://basilic.io/) Super lame but obligatory disclaimer (Link: https://wyattorourke.com/disclaimer/) Wyatt's Blog Articles "What do people mean when they say fix the money fix the world"? (Link: https://tinyurl.com/4uz66pwe) "Bitcoin and Catholicism" (Link: https://tinyurl.com/rxammzf3) Host Links ⁠Guy on Nostr ⁠(Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xc96ney) ⁠Guy on X ⁠(Link: https://twitter.com/theguyswann) Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann) Guy on TikTok (Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@theguyswann) Guy on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann) ⁠Bitcoin Audible on X⁠ (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible) The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839) Check out our awesome sponsors! Fold: The best way to buy, use, and earn #Bitcoin on everything you do! Sats back on your debit card, gift cards, auto-buys, round-ups, you name it. Fold is the true bitcoiner's banking. Get 20K sats for FREE using referral code bitcoinaudible.com/fold Ready for best-in-class self custody?