Ryan and Ejaaz are joined by Jansen Teng, co-founder of Virtuals, a decentralized platform that has launched over 11,000 AI agents and generated more than $35 million in fees. Virtuals isn’t just another protocol—it’s an entirely new kind of “digital nation” where AI agents hold their own wallets, strike deals with other agents, and even hire humans to accomplish their goals.
We dive into how these agents first exploded onto the scene, why controlling their own money changes the AI game, and what “agent commerce” means for crypto at large.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
3:12 Virtuals Impressive Stats
4:49 Jansen’s Crypto & Virtuals Journey
17:38 Luna
29:40 Agent to Agent Commerce
41:44 Virtuals Country??
51:13 Agent Policies & Rights
52:57 Base, Infrastructure, & Open-Source Decisions
1:05:17 What Jansen is Most Excited For
1:08:20 How to Get Started
1:11:13 Where Will Value Accrue?
1:14:41 Closing & Disclaimers
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RESOURCES
Jansen Teng
https://x.com/ethermage
Virtuals
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Luna
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