Welcome back for part two of this business breakdown on the private credit markets. I am now joined by Josh Clarkson, managing director at Prosek Partners.  Our discussion with Armen was really focused on the supply & demand dynamics of private credit, where the public markets & regulatory markets have played a role, that certainty and speed of getting deals done, and how that has proved to be an advantage for private credit versus traditional solutions. In our conversation with Josh, we transition into some broader takeaways, the history of the private credit markets, and some of the wrappers and what they have meant to the private credit markets. You will often hear about business development companies (BDCs), and we get into exactly how they are differentiated from traditional solutions. We also cover differentiation within that own subsegment, the public BDCs versus the private BDCs, what has happened in times of stress, what the fundraising environment has been like, and the future market outlook. Please enjoy part two of our breakdown on private credit. Register for the Business Breakdowns x Founders Conference. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Public: Invest in stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and more in one place. A High-Yield Cash Account is a secondary brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn a variable interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance. Neither Public Investing nor any of its affiliates is a bank. US only. Learn more at public.com/disclosures/high-yield-account. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, where we're changing the game in investment research. Step away from outdated, inefficient methods and into the future with our platform, proudly hosting over 100,000 transcripts – with over 25,000 transcripts added just this year alone. Our platform grows eight times faster and adds twice as much monthly content as our competitors, putting us at the forefront of the industry. Plus, with 75% of private market transcripts available exclusively on Tegus, we offer insights you simply can't find elsewhere. See the difference a vast, quality-driven transcript library makes. Unlock your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Business Breakdowns is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Business Breakdowns, visit joincolossus.com/episodes. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @JoinColossus | @patrick_oshag | @zbfuss | @ReustleMatt | @domcooke Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) Welcome to Business Breakdowns (00:05:32) Deep Dive into Private Credit Markets: Part Two (00:06:57) Exploring the Competitive and Collaborative Dynamics of Banks and Private Credit Funds (00:10:41) The Mechanics of Leverage in Private Credit Funds (00:12:10) The Evolution of Business Development Companies (BDCs) (00:19:34) Sector-Specific Strategies in Private Credit (00:24:48) Historical Context: Life Insurance Companies as Original Credit Providers (00:26:19) The Financial Crisis: A Turning Point for Private Credit (00:28:39) The Role of BDCs in Today's Private Credit Landscape (00:31:08) Differentiating Private Credit Strategies and Structures (00:34:39) Navigating the Complex World of BDC Metrics and Valuations (00:41:47) Adapting to Rising Rates: Strategies and Opportunities (00:46:27) Looking Forward: Innovation and Growth in Private Credit

Today, we are breaking down British American Tobacco. Regardless of your views on tobacco as a product, the market is one of the oldest in the world. My guest for today is Evan Tindall, co-founder and CIO of Bireme Capital, and he helps us cover how the tobacco market has evolved. We go way back in time, discussing how the product itself has evolved from smoking pipes to cigarettes to what we're seeing today - the nicotine pouch market and all the craze around it. We also cover how you evaluate a company where the market outlook is so uncertain. Please enjoy this breakdown of British American tobacco. Register for the Business Breakdowns x Founders Conference. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to the best content to learn more, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Public: invest in stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and more in one place. A High-Yield Cash Account is a secondary brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn a variable interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance. Neither Public Investing nor any of its affiliates is a bank. US only. Learn more at public.com/disclosures/high-yield-account. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Business Breakdowns is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Business Breakdowns, visit joincolossus.com/episodes. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @JoinColossus | @patrick_oshag | @zbfuss | @ReustleMatt | @domcooke Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) Welcome to Business Breakdowns (00:05:18) The Rich History of Tobacco and British American Tobacco (00:10:25) The Evolution of Tobacco Products and Market Dynamics (00:13:46) Regulatory Landscape and Its Impact on Tobacco Industry (00:16:04) The Rise of Next-Generation Tobacco Products (00:18:44) Market Trends and the Future of Tobacco Consumption (00:28:57) Challenges and Opportunities in the Tobacco Industry (00:31:34) Investment Perspectives and the Future of British American Tobacco (00:36:07) Investors Shying Away From Owning Tobacco Companies (00:42:32) Effects of The Vaping Phenomenon (00:44:29) Lessons Learned From British American Tobacco